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Movies: Batman v Superman
I saw it tonight.
And it was what I expected it to be: a movie made in no small part for the wider non-fandom audience of movies in general, but as much for the comics fans of 1985 to 1995. Not for the fans of now, nor of the fans of the interregnum between Golden and Silver Ages (as might be surmised to have been the intent for the Superman films featuring Christopher Reeve), nor those of the Silver Age itself.
There are influences from the comics work being done nowadays, true. But the key influences would be The Dark Knight by Frank Miller and the Doomsday arc as co-written by Jurgens, Stern, Ordway, and L. Simonson. And just a bit of seasoning from Gardner Fox, William Moulton Marston (and his partners, credited or not), Jack Kirby, Wolfman and Perez and a few others thrown into the mix.
Definitely Jack Kirby's contributions are the ones we'll be watching for over the next half-decade. Leave that where I dropped it for now.
With those two key storylines we led off with, there's lots of sturm und drang in play, some of it carrying over from Man of Steel. You can't have a closing fight on the scale of that one without all manner of consequences. I'm quite fine with all of that. Not disappointed, not outraged, but satisfied.
We got a story about people. How they react, how they cope, how they fail and succeed at dealing with what they've done. And with what others have done. How they can be maneuvered into acting against themselves and yet still manage to do right by whomever they can. "Metahuman" or not.
I got my time and my money's worth out of this. Your opinions will and should vary from mine. And that's alright, too.
And it was what I expected it to be: a movie made in no small part for the wider non-fandom audience of movies in general, but as much for the comics fans of 1985 to 1995. Not for the fans of now, nor of the fans of the interregnum between Golden and Silver Ages (as might be surmised to have been the intent for the Superman films featuring Christopher Reeve), nor those of the Silver Age itself.
There are influences from the comics work being done nowadays, true. But the key influences would be The Dark Knight by Frank Miller and the Doomsday arc as co-written by Jurgens, Stern, Ordway, and L. Simonson. And just a bit of seasoning from Gardner Fox, William Moulton Marston (and his partners, credited or not), Jack Kirby, Wolfman and Perez and a few others thrown into the mix.
Definitely Jack Kirby's contributions are the ones we'll be watching for over the next half-decade. Leave that where I dropped it for now.
With those two key storylines we led off with, there's lots of sturm und drang in play, some of it carrying over from Man of Steel. You can't have a closing fight on the scale of that one without all manner of consequences. I'm quite fine with all of that. Not disappointed, not outraged, but satisfied.
We got a story about people. How they react, how they cope, how they fail and succeed at dealing with what they've done. And with what others have done. How they can be maneuvered into acting against themselves and yet still manage to do right by whomever they can. "Metahuman" or not.
I got my time and my money's worth out of this. Your opinions will and should vary from mine. And that's alright, too.
There.
I'm probably going to do another post later on, dealing with more trivia-minded issues...
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I associate the Reeve movies more with the Bronze Age Superman -- slightly more self-aware and mature than the Silver Age, without veering completely into the cynicism and deconstructionism of the '80s.
Although I suppose you could argue that sleeping with Lois and then giving her amnesia is an example of Weisinger-era Superdickery...
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