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On the DEWLine 2.0: Dwight Williams ([personal profile] dewline) wrote2008-03-16 10:17 am

On Mass Transit

Call this an infrastructure rant.

I had a look at the system map of GO Transit this morning.

I got curious, partly because of these facts: I use OC Transpo here in Ottawa every day to get from point to point for whatever reasons matter most at a given moment, and most of my intercity travelling - what little there is of it right now - is done through VIA Rail. I've therefore become a public transit supporter and a bit of a railfan as well.

So I'm starting to wonder why, given the extent of real estate served by GO Transit these days, as well as the fact that it's being once again funded by the provincial government of Ontario...why not extend the network to cover the whole province, and thereby provide true intercity bus and rail transit to cities in Ontario not currently served by VIA Rail?

I don't see why we should settle for GO Transit confining itself to the area bounded by Oshawa, Barrie, Guelph and Hamilton.

[identity profile] madlycool.livejournal.com 2008-03-16 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
No idea about future finances - everyone makes promises, but no one wants to commit. Why is the McGuinty government taking so long to untangle the mess Harris (and Flaherty...) created?

The trouble is passenger rail hardly owns any tracks, so they're dependent on CP and CN (whatever they call themselves these days) - they even kept the hotels passenger rail built. So, the tracks aren't kept in good condition for passengers, literally get pushed aside for freight, and CN/CP have abandoned so many routes. At the same time, rail is expensive and inflexible, so restoring things like the Peterboro-Toronto route is mindboggling - the traffic in and out of Pontypool can't be that high. As popular as GO Transit is, it's only recently that it has moved more people than the single King Street Streetcar in Toronto.

I'd like rail to my hometown, but to build tracks and buy engines to service 5 people an hour, or a train or two a day, just isn't economical. People don't want to spend all day travelling on trains that stop at every little hamlet.

Real intercity trains these days means building high-speed trains between large cities, like Toronto-Montreal, where you can cut travel time from 5 hours to 2.5, where you're dealing with hundreds of passengers (and aren't waiting in airports all day).

[identity profile] dewline.livejournal.com 2008-03-16 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Paragraph two suggests that it's time rail users got our lobbying act together, more so that we already have at least...

On McGuinty

[identity profile] dewline.livejournal.com 2008-03-17 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw in today's Toronto Star - I really should take out a subscription to that paper and stop wasting time with newsstands - a columnist comparing him to Bill Davis in terms of "incrementalism". Behaviour that, in a battle against everything from poverty to climate derangement, the columnist was less than thrilled with.

I suspect, though, that our current premier would wear such a tag of "incrementalist" with real, heartfelt pride.

Not sure I'd want him to do that, but there it is.

On CN and CPR

[identity profile] dewline.livejournal.com 2008-03-17 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
They still call themselves by those initials, last I checked...and you're right about the trackage rights bottleneck you described. It's one of the biggest headaches of the current arrangement, no matter what kind of passenger rail setup we're willing to agree upon.